Beware! Don't get an education because we need all your free time to volunteer for us until you're old and don't have a cent to your name. An educated man cannot be held captive.
"He who opens a school door, closes a prison." -Victor Hugo
we have co visit this week.
its official, after months and months of college bashing including but not limited to the wonderful jeremiah book the co's are hitting it hard with their talks now.
same as the jeremiah book, higher education sucks and worldy people suck.
Beware! Don't get an education because we need all your free time to volunteer for us until you're old and don't have a cent to your name. An educated man cannot be held captive.
"He who opens a school door, closes a prison." -Victor Hugo
the death of a jw and the birth of me the apostate.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2lwgowdpj8.
a huge thanks to my friend ray publisher (jwstruggle) for posting my video for me.
now that i am no longer held prisoner from the fear of watchtower, i can now help others!.
Awesome vid Gojira101, really appreciated your sincerity and related so much to your emotions about being true to yourself.
Thank you
now that enough time has passed and i've moved away, i think i'm overdue to share some of the stories from my fade.
i've mentioned some of this before, but i think it deserves its own thread.. we all would like to be able to freely ask questions about jw beliefs and get our family and friends to really think about certain questions.
however, when you're a baptized jw, you really can't ask any good questions or you'll get the "apostate" label slapped on you!
Awesome post Biily! Thanks..
the drama continues, i log on to facebook this morning and notice that i have about 20 some odd personal messages from people calling me an apostate to they will return to me when i return to jehovah.. all of this based upon my brother informing others that i have "apostate thoughts".
my mother also encourage long-time famil friends to "unfriend" me because i have taken my stand on the side of satan... wow.
don't you just love this international brotherhood.
Crazy right? Instead of welcoming a healthy debate of personal differences and opinion (yours based on fact of course) you get the ax. Sorry to hear but such is the price for unplugging from the Matrix.
i have been lurking here for months now, and i just decided to post here and actually interact with this community.
i have a very specific/unordinary life, so i will not divulge too much information to protect my privacy.
i am a baptized publisher who is under the age of 25 who attends college, and i do have responsiblities within the congregation.
Thoughtless, thanks for sharing your situation. I too feel like I'm sailing your same boat in certain aspects and can only advise to be true to whatever is going on inside. If there's a conflict because you now realize that this is not the place to be then make an honest move, not one motivated by anger or disgust with the things you've discovered. Being angry and showing it to your adoptive family and brother will only serve to alienate.
As far as your brother, I can relate but if he's reasonable he will understand that it wasn't college that changed your mind just as much as high school didn't make you different either.
Best wishes,
Sammy
the study edition of the watchtower says the elders are appointed by jehovah's holy spirit.
it's confounding the society does not realize that more and more elders, do not accept this claim.
i have racked my brain, wondering how many brothers and sisters actually believe this, fall hook and sinker.
I totally drank the Kool-Aid on this one (served as MS for almost 5 yrs) and thought I was "privileged" but that bubble exploded when I heard about that story in AZ of David Nelson. There went my belief in the appointment system, right out the window along with my faith.
continuing on with my haphazard review of the recent one-day elders school..... in one of the introductory talks, the co was making the point that we can't view things merely from a black and white perspective.
many issues have "shades of gray" and we need to use discernment in such situations.. and i'm thinking "finally!
maybe he will continue on to make an actual, reasonable point!".
just ron has received a couple of phone calls in the last few days from the rbc brother wanting him to come roof a kingdom hall.
now, just ron hasn't been to a meeting since december 2011, and certainly hasn't got a current volunteer form on file.
so i ask, are they desperate or just stupid?.
It smells like a a setup to me, roof assignment turns into prolonged back room meeting.
i remember being in high school hoping i would make it to see graduation sometimes even praying for it as i could feel the end was near.
but i graduated leaving behind prospects for school because i knew i needed to work hard in service to prove i deserved the real life.
i heard a talk at a convention that nearly guaranteed this system would be wrapping up soon and it scalded my mind with assurance that i was not sacrificing for anything.. i remember in the keynote address the speaker said we would only be back for another convention if god wanted.
wasblind , I really appreciated this comment:
Why should she have to "wait " on another lifetime to be happy
Thank you for sharing and you're right, let them live already!
hortensia, you're completely right and I have but it really sucked to reflect on time wasted. Life is short and I am/plan to live as full as possible.
cantleave, sometimes it feels like it wasn't soon enough but you're undoubtedly right.
Thank you.
i still believe it's coming.
i think if god is real, it has to come.
it only makes sense.
Paul, I guess I am definitely an "in-betweener" to your thread as I can not agree nor refute your thought. I can only opine that it would be nice to live in a place free of pain and struggle. Will it come? For me that hope has vanished and I think for many of us it was yet another promise that was overly hyped in our Witness mind.